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Title: Simple program
Post by: Mosquito on February 17, 2008, 12:54:20 PM
Greetz
Do you know any good and easy software to use for making simple PCB’s?
Title: Re: Simple program
Post by: Alex on February 18, 2008, 18:09:06 PM
I use the Eagle PCB and it is very easy and reliable
Title: Re: Simple program
Post by: Erkeli on February 18, 2008, 21:17:11 PM
There are lots of software all over the market. What do you really want to do?
Title: Re: Simple program
Post by: Mosquito on February 18, 2008, 23:53:07 PM
Well actually it will be my first time to make a pcb using a software. Until now I use a pen to draw the pcb on the copper directly but I cannot make any fancy good looking pcb’s. I want to have a start to something more ‘professional’. You understand.
Title: Re: Simple program
Post by: kam on February 20, 2008, 21:12:49 PM
Well mosquito, Eagle PCB is as I believe quite easy for a beginner and there is also a version free to test with some limitations regarding the size and the part numbers per pcb. But I believe is best for you.
Title: Re: Simple program
Post by: Supernova on February 21, 2008, 19:35:16 PM
Orcad I use and I like it a lot. Huge library. But I think is not very easy for a beginner.
Title: Re: Simple program
Post by: Erkeli on February 21, 2008, 20:12:37 PM
Yes you are right. Orcad is very good and very hard. Mosquito do not start with orcad. And also it is not free
Title: Re: Simple program
Post by: Mosquito on February 21, 2008, 23:05:39 PM
Does anybody know where can I find this Eagle PCB?
Title: Re: Simple program
Post by: Supernova on February 24, 2008, 15:57:12 PM
Hey man! Google for it!
Title: Re: Simple program
Post by: Mosquito on February 26, 2008, 23:27:42 PM
Lol! Yes sure. Thanx guys!
Title: Re: Simple program
Post by: Erkeli on March 01, 2008, 00:54:16 AM
http://www.cadsoft.de/ (http://www.cadsoft.de/)
Title: Re: Simple program
Post by: ScubaCap on March 01, 2008, 17:47:15 PM
Do you want just to draw PCB or you want to draw the schematic and then have the PCB from the schematic? There are cheaper and more easy programs that are used just to draw PCBs. But nothing more. Only PCBs. No schematic and then transfer to PCB...
Title: Re: Simple program
Post by: kam on March 01, 2008, 19:58:14 PM
Do you want just to draw PCB or you want to draw the schematic and then have the PCB from the schematic? There are cheaper and more easy programs that are used just to draw PCBs. But nothing more. Only PCBs. No schematic and then transfer to PCB...

Well i think that there is a version of Eagle that is free and has only limitations in pins and dimensions but for beginning is very good. Bothering with just a PCB drawing software worths not the time that he will waste. It's better to start with a good software because if he don;t he will probably do the same job twice in the future
Title: Re: Simple program
Post by: Mosquito on March 01, 2008, 21:09:39 PM
I want to make schematic and then automatically transfer it to PCB. I just will arrange the parts and the lines will be automatically drawn. I suppose this Eagle can do it e?
Title: Re: Simple program
Post by: manley_V on March 01, 2008, 21:18:03 PM
Mosquito try it. It will fit you.
Title: Re: Simple program
Post by: Mosquito on March 03, 2008, 00:41:41 AM
Well, it looks like that i will need some practice first. I did d/load it and i am testing it.
it looks very nice. But i still cannot make a pcb  :( :( :(

It is sure something that i do wrong. I see the parts and the connections between them but i see no board yet. I will keep on trying

Thanx dudes
Title: Re: Simple program
Post by: kam on March 03, 2008, 12:15:17 PM
practice makes perfect

but if you need anything just ask.
Title: Re: Simple program
Post by: Ivey on March 10, 2011, 17:19:35 PM
Making a PCB is a very easy task if you know how to proceed. The question is, will you be making the board yourself or will you farm it out?

And..., if you are going to make it yourself, which method will you be using? Toner transfer or film?

Film is the best, yet it cost more to get started. And to get good results.

Toner transfer is cheap, and you only get better with practice. Besides, you need less equipment and materials.

As far as software is concern. Express PCB is one of the best for beginners.
As you get better at it, you will discover that you can do a great many things with it. Including using it to draw mech. drawings. And it is not limited in board size or pins. Plus u can use it to make a four layer board, three layer boards, two layer boards and singles.

I use Express PCB and I have large library files, which I posted on DIY Audio. Express PCB is free, put u can only use it to do toner transfer or film. You can not produce gerber files. But if you catalog your drawings. You will not need them if you do film or transfer.

The other side of Express PCB, is, that you can have the people at Express PCB make your boards for you.

Eagle is a good program, yet its size limitation will harm you, when your desire to produce larger boards come into play. As well, Eagle is not so easy to learn. For some people, it is a snap. For others, it is confusing.

Also, if you become good at using Eagle, you get yourself into the position of having to spend hundreds, to thousands of dollars; to upgrade to better features.

Even thou you start out at a mere $50.00 dollars using Eagle Lite commerically, once you get comfortable with Eagle, as your go to eda, your hooked into a system that will cost you a great deal to continue using to design bigger and better boards.

You can avoid all of that with Express PCB.

But you want a good commercial EDA program to start out on. Choose Sprint or Target 3000 v.15. Of the two, Target 3000 v.15, is really the best of all. It has unlimited size on boards, it pins limit is 250, and it gives you the Electra autorouter free up to 250 pins
Title: Re: Simple program
Post by: kam on March 10, 2011, 18:41:42 PM
absolutely agree with ivey about eagle. I use eagle as well, i am very comfortable with it (from the first time), and now i draw very complicated PCB with ease, but my demands are growing and eagle needs a LOT of money (really, LOT) for upgrades, which i am not willing to give, not a chance.  I discourage all to work with eagle, unless you get a full version. IMO though, it is simple and quite powerful to use.