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#### waseemak

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##### How to determine the required DC Motor for my application?
« on: December 13, 2012, 10:39:57 AM »
Good Day,

I am looking to build a sort of Segway type device that is able to carry a person of approximately 80kgs around. I plan to use two DC motors that will drive the device. The motor will be connected directly to the wheel via shafts, bearings and wheel hub.

But I am unsure on the necessary power rating, capacity and torque required for the motors.

Can anyone tell me what are the necessary calculations that I need to do in order to determine the critical specifications before I purchase the motors?

Regards
(Keep Calm and Chive On!)

#### kam

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##### Re: How to determine the required DC Motor for my application?
« Reply #1 on: December 14, 2012, 19:08:36 PM »
Well, there are lot to estimate for this. First, the rpm. You will get this by the speed you want to get and the type of tire you will use. So if you use a tire with perimeter 1meter  for example, the rpm of the shaft for 30Km/h will be

rpm = speed[km/h] x 1000 / 60 x perimeter [meters] = 30 x 1000 / 60 x 1 = 500rpm

From this number you can calculate the gear ratio for your motor. So if your motor rotates at 3000rpm max, you want a gear ratio of 3000/500 = 6:1

Now for the torque, you wanna know the force that you want to apply. Simply way to get it us by the load and the acceleration you want to achieve. The formula is a=f/m, so the force f is a x m [m/sec^2]
Now you wanna add some power for inclined situations where your seg wants to climb a hill... In this situation, there is a force pulling your seg backwards, this force can be calculated graphically with geometry. If W is the weight and a is the angle of the inclined surface, then cos(a)=Fi / W => Fi = cos(a) x W

Add some 15% overpower...

Then you can calculate the torque. The torque is calculated if you multiply the force in Newtons by the diameter of your wheel (If the perimeter is 1mt,. the diameter is 31.8cm or 0.318 mt).  T = F x D [Nt-m]

Finally, the power of your motor is the rpm multiplied by the torque
W=T x rpm

And the electrical power is calculated by this formula

1HP = 736 Wattts

Make sure that you use all the appropriate units otherwise you may come up that you need a motor from a battleship to move your segway. Google for the above formulas to get the units you most prefer

#### _pike

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##### Re: How to determine the required DC Motor for my application?
« Reply #2 on: December 15, 2012, 23:45:23 PM »
Kam you amaze me as always!!!!!!!

#### kam

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##### Re: How to determine the required DC Motor for my application?
« Reply #3 on: December 17, 2012, 22:58:51 PM »
Mistake!

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Then you can calculate the torque. The torque is calculated if you multiply the force in Newtons by the diameter of your wheel (If the perimeter is 1mt,. the diameter is 31.8cm or 0.318 mt).  T = F x D [Nt-m]

It is the force multiplied by the RADIUS! Fore 1mt perimeter that is 31.8/2