I am not going to prototype anything on a breadboard due to the complexity of the system. Instead, i decided to go directly onto a PCB. After all, there will be design errors and changes, so i can name this PCB as "prototype board" and save a ton of wires connected on breadboards. The procedure i followed is the same as i always do, my favorite, the photographic method. I used my PCB Photographic Artwork Transfer UV Cabinet to transfer the artwork from paper to PCB, and then my PCB Etching Bath with Heater and Agitation to etch the board. Here is the result: (click to enlarge)
This time the result was even better. I reduced the exposure time from 750 to 600''. For the story, i began exposures as long as 950'' which had very bad results, then i droped doen to 850, 800, 750 and now 600. I think i will try one at 500''. There are still lots of throuhg-hole components but this is going to change gradually, as i empty the through-hole stock that i have.
I drilled the holes for the through-hole components
I solder them, as well as the wire-bridges
Then i soldered the MAX6675 and all the SMD components
Through-hole to SMD
I now had to solder the 6 7-segment displays, but i had big plans for those :D. They are through-hole components but i plan to solder them as if they were SMDs. Why? Well, first of all i save myself from drilling another 60 boring holes. But basically, if it is better to solder them on the bottom layer, so that i can mount the board directly onto the box.
The displays are normally through-hole
I put the first row in a pre-drilled PCB which i will use as a stencil
And i bend the pins 90 degrees
This is the result so far
I do the same for the other side
Ready!
So now, i can solder them as SMD components on the bottom side of the PCB. This is the result (click to enlarge):
file gia.molis tora se brika ke ise poli endiaferon. exo mia idea gia pio statheri thermokrasia gia pid temp controllers.nomizo pos tha itan kalitera an anti na kobete to power apo to heating elemend , apla na mionete kai na afksanete otan pesi I thermokrasia,etsi o xronos pou xriazete gia na ftafi I antistasi sto maximum pig temp tha ine poli ligoteri kai to lathos ligotero. ti nomizis, ? se efxaristo.
@Angeltech Follow the schematic as shown - I added the wire after i discovered the problem with the PCB, so there may be pictures without the wire. I really cannot remember what happened.
As for the fan, you need an oscilloscope to see if the PWM pulses arrive at the fan.
Sir I have no luck with fan speed in 3 or 4pin fan still not working right, hope you could help another thing is do I have to connect pin 23 and pin 6 of microcontroller seems you just connect it and remove on the demonstration picture. please advice.
Sir thank you very much, now the 7 segment brightness is the same, still working on the fan problem maybe I have to change the darlington transistor which i used C4169 that contains diode and zener that might effect the control signal.
@Angeltech I used 2 different display sets so i have different delays to have same brightness. What you want to do not is go to the "Display.inc" file and replace the "call Wait390uSec" with "call wait2mSec" (found 3 times).
For the PWM, i'm not sure what the problem is. It should work.
I have duplicate your circuit and working with v.1.1 hex file program to the PIC chip, the problem I encountered is the following:
1. 7-sigment display on the top portion all 3 7-segment displays is dim but it displays the temperature right. Not like the lower 3 7-segment is bright and clear with same 7 segment part number.
2. the Fan controller pot not working, it never slows down as adjusted.
Hope you could help me with this, I don't have very much background with regards to programming. and I really like the circuit and the functionality.
@Iuliu well, actually i do, but i have not finish the housing. I stuck in the nozzle which was originally from special plastic, but it was eventually not so special to withstand the heat of the resistor which accidentally came into contact - so it burned into flames. I will make it from stainless steel or something like that.
At 3 November 2012, 18:56:27 user Iuliu wrote: [reply @ Iuliu]
Hello Giorgos Lazaridis have you made the new proiect "a PCB preheater" ?
I'm thinking to do my self to,but i want to use 16f819 ,that pic i have about 5 pieces,my question is is fast enough at 4 Mhz clock?
At 10 July 2012, 20:45:27 user Mr-H wrote: [reply @ Mr-H]
Hi nice job
but from what i see here, the systeme is unstable
@Ricardo The layout had errors, check this page:
http://www.pcbheaven.com/projectpages/K_Type_Thermocouple_PID_Controller/?p=2&topic=worklog
I have not correct these errors, so you will need to find and correct them yourself. If this is ok with you, i can send the layout to your email. And if you correct these errors and it works, you can send them back so i can then upload them in the site.
@Ricardo The worklog is here:
http://www.pcbheaven.com/projectpages/K_Type_Thermocouple_PID_Controller/?p=0&topic=worklog
There are 5 pages in which i explain exactly how i made it. As for the parts, i cannot help you with them. You need to locate them from your local market, or order them from internet like from farnell.com
Hi! I know there are a lot of information in your website but I can not find some parts like these:
IC1 PIC 16F1937 Microcontroller
IC3 MAX 6675 Cold-junction compensated K-Thermocouple to digital converter (0°C to 1024°C)
IC5 ULN2003A High Voltage - High Current Darlington Arrays
IC6 MOC3021 Random Phase Optoisolator TRIAC Driver Output
IC7 DF02M 1.5 Ampere Bridge Rectifiers
Also, I'd like to ask you the source code in assembly...
Hi! Assembly it will be nice for me...Can you provide the source code? I want to buy the hardware (PCB) already done/working but I need the 18F4520 instead 16Fxxxx. I don't have time to do it myself and I won't find some parts in my place so, let's talk about...Can you help me? Since now, thanks a lot!
Hello!! How's it going? I'm stating Control&Automation Engineering and I liked your job..very nice! So, I have a question, Is there any chance you provide me the source code in C ? I would like to learn how to program PID ALg into a PIC18F4550 using MikroC compiler so, could u help me, please? In last case, Do u have PayPal account? ;) Let's go deal!
@awan i've been trying to convert the old-style articles (like this one) with the new style articles. I have already upload the TCPDF library, but i cannot get it to work. I hope everything will work well in the end.
At 27 January 2012, 6:39:54 user awan wrote: [reply @ awan]
thanks bro for sharing ur project it will be very kind if u share pcb file for this project ....
Thanks for the details. It is a pleasure to read or listen to your instructive discussions regarding your interesting projects. I like your attention to intelligent detail.
@Fung they are different brands. Same type, same connection, different brand.
At 21 August 2011, 16:03:25 user Fung wrote: [reply @ Fung]
Why do 3 of the 7-segment displays have different surface color? Are they specified to use?
At 18 August 2011, 22:35:09 user _pike wrote: [reply @ _pike]
My opinion is to buy the same chip instead of trying to recompile the full programm also sometimes some fuctions are different from pic to pic....it is not worthy recompiling....
@Stefan i'm sorry but i do not do circuits (nor programs) on demand. You will need to do the change yourself, or get a same PIC. As for the ULN, it is a darlington pair array. Instead of using 6 transistors i use this.
Good job,I have a plans for this,but there not in function.So I would like you to finish this project and to build one for myself.But I don't have that PIC microcontroller that you're using I want to use PIC16F877A(887 etc.) can you recompile for it?And I want to know why there is ULN2023,what is his job? :D